Bunting House to Become a Wendy's
The property where the old Victorian home once stood is slated to become a Wendy's
Developers in charge of construction on the site of the former Bunting House revealed plans on Friday to build a Wendy's fast food restaurant where the historic home once stood, according to Central Roxborough Civic Association lawyer Hal Schirmer.
Constructed in the 1880s, the Victorian style home located at 5901 Ridge Ave. was demolished in mid-December after several civic organizations petitioned the city to stop its destruction.
Giovannone Construction, Inc. went ahead with the demolition after a Court of Common Pleas Judge denied an injunction filed by the Central Roxborough Civic Association and other civic organizations.
At the hearing in Dec., Hal Schirmer, attorney for the neighbors, asserted the city erred in issuing demolition permits as "vacant lot" is not an official use. He argued that demolition should be put off until either the L&I Review Board and/or the ZBA could rule on it.
Also at the Dec. hearing, the city asserted, through its attorney Andrew Ross, that "vacant lot" is the absence of a zoning use, and that city employees correctly granted the Giovannones permits.
The now demolished home was formerly owned by Dr. Ross Hunting, a noted physician in the early 20th century, who is buried across the street at St. Timothy's Episcopal Church.
"They told the neighbors they were going to build something nice," Schirmer said. "Now we find out it's going to be a Wendy's."
kevin
2:58 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Thank God! I'm not fat enough!
This will help.
Jaclyn
3:57 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
That will crap up the neighborhood nicely. Ever see the crowd at the Wendy's at 15th and Chestnut? I give it 3 months before the first brawl occurs with kids from the rec center.
ML
4:49 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
3 months? Generous. 3 weeks.
Paul
9:47 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
good for the owner, bad for everyone else.
Debbie Thomas
10:28 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Jaclyn, that's the first thing I thought of when I read this. The Wendy's at 15th and Chestnut almost always has teens congregated around it when I walk by. This is definitely not going to be good for the Ridge.
Theresa McCabe
10:26 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
15th & Chestnut is a DIFFERENT mentality then Ridge & Roxborough!!! Come on now. Let's be REALISTIC with our opposition.
Michael
4:46 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Awesome...way to go "local leaders". You should be proud!
How did this get rezoned? Hmmmm
RoxGuy
5:10 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Mmmmmm Frostys...
Chris
6:05 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
How is it possible that in December they "had no idea other than an empty lot" and in February - Shazzam! A WENDY'S! And no local leaders/politician's knew about this???? What a mess! Drive thru carbon monoxide emissions into houses, Wendy's trash all over the streets, loitering, increased traffic around a residential area, health danger attraction to the kids going to the recreation center for physical fitness, a big glaring neon eyesore plunked right in the middle of one of the nicest neighborhoods you could want to live in. This is a HUGE slap in the face to home owners and political constituents in this area who absolutely OPPOSE THIS!
Debbie Thomas
10:30 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I'll probably get a response from Josh Cohen for Councilman Jones office but I don't care. I really am finding it extremely difficult to believe that the local politicians did not know about this.
Mike Paquin
11:56 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
It's NOT possible. It's not true. They had this in the works in one form or another for a LONG time.
Louise Fischer
7:47 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I'm sick over this news. mcDonalds tried this in the Art Musem Area back around 2002. The neighborhood protested against the plan. The developers may not care, but Wendy's may not want to be involved in a community protest. I urge everyone to contact your neighborhood associations and let them know how you feel. There are many conversations going on about this subject. Please voice your opinion and show your support. Lets work hard not to let this happen.
Eryn T J
8:31 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Contact your legislators:http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/congress/?view=myofficials&azip=19128&bzip=&submit.x=21&submit.y=3&submit=go. Rox is on its way up and this will bring it down.
Debbie Thomas
10:32 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Exactly. Ridge Avenue gets The Foodery<<<<good thing!
Ridge Avenue with a Wendy's<<<<<<bad thing.
One step forward and two steps back.
tlandsmann
8:34 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Very classy. The developer had the best interest of the community in mind when he rushed to destroy a unique dwelling for some thing so common.
We should all be proud of him. Maybe we should bring a Wendy's to chestnut hill next. Plenty of historic dwellings
Agree
Maryalice Brennan
8:40 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Oh Joy, Oh Joy. Just what any neighborhood needs. Another high cholesterol, high fat, fast food restaurant. What a shame that a beautiful Victorian building was torn down to be replaced by a fast food chain store. WON'T GET MY BUSINESS.
Rox
8:53 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Thinking about how bad the neighborhood is going to smell is making me sick already. Not to mention the two school up the street that aren't exactly full of civilized people. It'll be chaos.
RoxGuy
4:13 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
"...the two school up the street that aren't exactly full of civilized people."
What do you mean by this statement? What do you have against children and teachers?
john m
3:34 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
thumbs up on that one!
Sam
8:59 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Your right Maryalice it's just one more place for are kids to get fat.
steven Johnson
9:10 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Yes, I do miss those ABANDED BUILDINGS with the broken windows that were so 'classy'. We're you folks blind to that ? The old useless Bunting house that could not attract any business or buyers had to go. Get over it. It's called progress. We need some fast food choices around here. Lets not forget about all the jobs that this will create also !
Anna
10:34 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
The Bunting house did attract business and buyers. The owners ignored the offers to purchase the property (and maintain the building as is) and they evicted the businesses and tenants that were happily leasing the space.
Michael
2:05 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Those building were forced into abandonment by the current owner and past owners. People were living there that were forced out. I'd assume you comments are tongue and cheek and any sane person wouldn't call a fast food restaurant progress.
And "Steven Johnson", if you need a job there plenty at the locally owned restaurants and food establishments.
Michael Grady
3:22 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Speaking of abandoned buildings... the house at 259 Cinnaminson was very nice until the kids from the neighborhood, I'm sure, completely vandalized and destroyed it. It's a real shame.. drive by and take a look at it! The RPCA voted down a plan to build four single homes and six townhouses there and I also voted to deny the owner his plans. it has sat empty for at least four years.. and as a result it was sold at sheriff's sale February 5th.... stay tuned
Ines Stelzer
8:44 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Are you crazy? The bunting house was in great condition. For years it was used as a law office. The building next to it was a salon, then a house, none of which were abandoned, nor were there broken windows. The owners had occupied those houses and building until they were sold. More fast food choices? Really? Why? You have to be friends with that idiot Kevin
Taco King
9:11 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
dammit I wanted a taco bell.
Brian K.
10:13 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Chick-Fil-A would be better. Closed on Sunday also.
Jo Ann Desper
10:17 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Let Wendy's know they're not welcome in Roxborough. Contact them at:
Wendy's Consumer Relations - United States
Wendy's International, Inc.
One Dave Thomas Blvd.
Dublin, OH 43017
Phone: (614) 764-3100, x132032
wendys.franchising@wendys.com
Michael Grady
3:09 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
I welcome them with open arms. I don't eat at fast-food places often (maybe once or twice a month) but it beats having to drive all the way out on Ridge Pike for lunch.. Besides that, their food is good.. and they have baked potatoes, which I love!! But, a Chick-fil-a would have been my first choice.
William Pezzello
10:33 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I'm sure the Roxborough Development Corporation has insisted that the project fits in with the design plans for the business district and will be buffered by modern greening practices, for the betterment of local business and residents. I suggest you call and ask. I agree, win for the owner, loss for the neighborhood.
Debbie Thomas
10:41 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I think those scumbags at Giavannone knew all along that what was going to go there. That 30 day delay was all smoke and mirrors. if the neighborhood wants to fight this, count me in!
Katie Emery
10:47 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Wendy's is so low class, many other food places would have been better (a family owned deli, chick fil a, or panera). Can this be protested?
William Pezzello
10:48 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Roxborough Development Corporation. 215-508-2358
Roxy girl
10:56 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Looking forward to it. I agree with Steve J. Now let's work on the delapadated house next to the Bank at Ridge & Rox. Ave. That's an eyesore if ever there was one.
Michael
2:07 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Pretending to be someone else?? Look at you...
Kevin ross
10:59 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Roxborough, the new germantown. Hell, that's what it's becoming, with all these new stores between hermitage and lyceum that can't last more than 3 years. Roxborough should have been left alone. This neighborhood sucks anymore!
Deb Steed
8:19 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Oh, and don't forget that Germantown High School is closing and those kids will be coming over to Roxborough High...So yeah...Roxborough is on the way to being another Germantown for sure.
We could have used a Trader Joe's or a fresh produce store or something else that promotes good health...NOT a Wendy's.
And to think ... they tore down a beautiful Historical Victorian home for a Wendy's! UGH! Somebody knew about this!
john m
3:37 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
can't agree with you more.
Lill Ciasullo
11:17 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I think it is GREAT. WE ONLY have one fast food restaurant in Roxborough. It is Much better than some of the stores on the Ridge.......check cashing, Laundromat & stores that are bringing down the community. It will also bring jobs. It is about time something different is coming. Idea for Goldens car lot would be a Trader Joe's.....that would be really nice.
Debbie Thomas
11:56 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Laundromats bring down the community? HAHAHA
Michael
2:19 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
You must live in a cave. The car lot is going to be a gym.
You praise this Wendy's and mention Trader Joe's at the same time?
Roxborough Citizen
11:57 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Seriously though. What rights do we have here as citizens of this neighborhood? Shouldn't there be a community meeting asking us for our input. How do we state our case if we're against it?
Spa
11:59 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
The neighborhood was always bad I guess everyone forgot about the junkie scum bags walking around
Mike Paquin
12:04 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I think people where/are afraid of suit. Hardly anyone called the developer COMPLETELY out that it was 100% hogwash months ago, many minced words a little to avoid saying they were full of shit! A plan was always in place, belive it. Greed was the motivator, and lies were a course of getting what they wanted. They claimed they had the legal "right" to do it, and yet fought to assert that right. If it was such a guaranteed right, was an answer by teh developer and their representatives even needed, could they not just ignore the uprising? Of course not! Nothing is a 100% till it's 100%. They knew that they could still lose that so called right, and/or enough public outcry could really hink things up. In the face of that if they had then played it HONEST, they may well have still won, but they MIGHT NOT HAVE and they knew it! NOW, the fact that they LIED in court proceedings MIGHT be a purjury, I'm not sure it applies in this sort of case, but someone should look into it. Because if so, they lied quite thoroughly and it can be proven. These deals don't happen in a month or two.....
Mike Paquin
12:04 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Large companies like Wendy's study population, income, traffic, and all sorts of things, it takes MONTHS. They do it often, in secret to prevent any probelms and the owner does the same, it's normal biz, but there are paper trails. It can be shown some of what went on, with a court proceeding and I think local neighbors should go on the attack! That house had tens of thousands of dollars in restoration just a couple years ago, and was FAR from unusable. There was a previous development plan ON FILE with the city, that was approved! It was BEAUTIFUL, preserving the character of the area, and especially the Bunting House, and still making with the commerce and profit! The fast food plan was easier and more profitable, bottom line, GREED!
Mike Paquin
12:04 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
There were MANY attempts and offers to buy it, rent it, etc., and yet the owners are STILL claiming otherwise. Look how stupid their OBVIOUS shill above is! Who says "hey we NEED more fast food choices" ?? That couldn't be more stupid! As far as those stores being empty eye sores THEY KEPT THEM THAT WAY on purpose as their plan was LONG in place! The shill above registered TODAY on Patch and yet posts almost exactly the same troll-like inflamatory reaction to opposition that was seen 2 months ago, from another "new user"?! Why do they have just one single and only defender of this? Quite INTERESTING! Maybe because everyone knows that though fast food is convenient and most of us give in to it, the locations have NEVER proven a positive thing for the landscape, neighborhood, or communities of residence. They do bring things down, sad but true. Easy enough to keep up the games for the developer and their few supported, as the pay-off is huge. To lie and lie and lie, and then manipulate and try to find ANY justification for the SERIES of things that were done in pursuit of a specific agenda, is just more of the same bullshit, but THEY are up to their end of the bargain, nothing to lose everything to gain! The locals will have to put forth effort and money and heartache, but have nothing financial to gain, though it is a good fight if folks are up to it.
Roxborough Citizen
12:23 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Is anyone involved with the Roxborough Development Corporation and/or know what their involvement is with this? They seem to be the first place to go. I was looking at their website, and in one of their brochures it looks like it might be this Bunting House had been depicted in one of their brochures as one of the community amenities... Roxborough is such a charming place architecturally (I'm not the neighborhood and it has been cold, so that's all I know so far), and a Wendy's does not bring charm. It only brings money to someone who probably doesn't even live here. I would appreciate any knowledge anyone has about the dealings that went down with the demolition of the building and how the plan even came about. This is not how community building is done. If you want to attract people to this neighborhood, and not late night drunk people eating at Wendy's, this needs to be stopped.
Ines Stelzer
9:14 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
I went to mandarino's office across from Segals, they gave me a number and I spoke to some ass wipe who pretty much said, Roxborough is NOT historic, he knows because he's from the neighborhood (eye's rolling), I said that crap like this couldn't happen on main street, or east falls, art museum area, so why is it happening in Roxborough. Apparently Manayunk Group have a much larger organization and they are better organized. Roxborough isn't. That's why. Not enough people fought for it....but then again, I didn't even know it was being torn down until someone on FB said he was going to protest it. We were lied to and said it was put on hold. Then they tore it down. In the past few days I've been hearing hammering and I just noticed that in between the 2 houses across the street I almost could see to the other side of the river to Gladwyn. I just noticed they stuck another one of those fancy looking jail cells, I mean a brand new stucco and aluminum siding cookie cutter house - and I'm going to guess that the siding will be that burnt orange or green. Let's take bets
Louise Fischer
12:26 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Pls take Jo Ann's advice!
Call, write, email Wendy's expressing your opinions!!!
I witnessed Mc Donalds pulling out of the Art Museum Area, and they had begun to develop the propertyI
Ines Stelzer
5:11 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
I wrote them, and as much as I like wendy's I will never go into their establishment. Five Guys is right over city line - 10 minutes - at least they didn't tear down a beautiful home to make a fast food place. Why couldn't someone use some imagination....the KFC on city line ave used to be a club San Marco - it was the place to go back in the day. Did they tear down a landmark? No, they built their KFC without all the advertising. A life size Colonel Sanders sits in the way - now that's how you bring in the new without completing destroying a place where hundreds of our parents hung out. Roxborough has lost any class - it's all about money and who can build a prison looking house the fastest - who ever is building these homes needs to get some creativity ...... a 5 yr old has a better imagination
Roxborough Citizen
12:27 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Louise, I will do it right now. Thank you!
Roxborough Citizen
12:40 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I just spoke with someone at the number below (Thank you Jo Ann), and they took down all of my information and my comments on the proposal. They said they would forward my message to the district manager. If we flood his lines maybe something can be done.
Let Wendy's know they're not welcome in Roxborough. Contact them at:
Wendy's Consumer Relations - United States
Wendy's International, Inc.
One Dave Thomas Blvd.
Dublin, OH 43017
Phone: (614) 764-3100, x132032
wendys.franchising@wendys.com
Kristen
12:49 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I'm a Roxborough native. Went to Levering. Lived there all my life til I got married. When I visit, I'm always hoping that there'll be some improvements. So disheartened to hear about school closings and beautiful buildings being torn down. I agree that a Wendy's is totally out of place there. What neighbor wants that smell, cars in and out all day/night, and crowds of people "hangin' out" there? If the neighborhood needs a fast food place at all, a better location would be at the old Mobile station at Hermit/Righter/Ridge. That place has been empty forever and is a total eye sore. And, you've got an ambulance stationed right next door so that hamburger heart attack victim can get help immediately. The frosty would suffer though, 'cause no one holds a candle to the Custard Stand!
MikeP
2:36 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
"a better location would be at the old Mobile station at Hermit/Righter/Ridge. That place has been empty forever and is a total eye sore."
The site is now a TD Bank.
Hal Schirmer
3:52 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Well, playing devil's advocate, lets assume you want to invest in a fast food franchise in central Roxborugh. Why the controversial Bunting House location? Would an outparcel setup at the Acme site generate less opposition?
Deb Steed
8:24 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
That old Mobile station is now a TD Bank that was robbed twice in 4 days...I'm seriously thinking about getting out of Philadelphia!
Jessica
1:21 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
wendys.franchising@wendys.com
Please take action. We can't sit around and wait for this to happen.
Kevin
1:22 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I really think most of you people need to get a grip. Change is good. Change is Needed. The Roxborough Civic Association has made many questionable decisions over the years allowing businesses in Bad ones at that. Good ones get turned away because of the Demands or Needs. You recently Had 2 Robberies at a Bank and Bob's Diner robbed. Get outraged about that. Not New Economic growth!
Michael
2:13 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Yep, no one is outrage about robberies. Yep, new economic growth is adding fast food restaurants that are typically built in or near low income neighborhoods.
None of what you wrote made any sense.
Roxborough Citizen
1:30 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Contact Councilman Curtis Jones with your comments: http://philadelphiacitycouncil.net/council-members/councilman-curtis-jones-jr-4th-district/contact-councilman-curtis-jones-jr/
MikeP
2:41 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
They should have used the site of the former Rox-Manayunk Bank at Ridge and Lyceum for Wendy's. Now that is an eyesore.
Turn the Bunting house property into a green space.
Roxborough Citizen
2:47 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I am new to this area, but I think it would be great if we could defeat this! I really love it here -- the park nearby, the beautiful architecture, the connection to Center City, the potential of the Ridge business corridor. I really am so proud to live here, and accomplishing this would look great for our neighborhood! I have called the RDC and left a message. I have emailed the Councilman. And I have emailed and called Wendy's. If we continue to stay on top of this and continue to get more information, perhaps something can actually be done. Let's do it!!! Thank you to the Patch for providing us with this forum!
Roxborough Citizen
2:48 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Also, one last thing. While most articles on the Patch right now have been recommended on facebook only a handful of times, this article has been recommended 247 times as of right now. There is a lot of interest in and support of this issue!
David Woo
2:54 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
In your emails to Wendy's include a url to this article and make sure that you write instructions to scroll down at the many negative comments about a Wendy's coming in.
Kristy
2:56 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Weren't they supposed to put a Wendy's on Ridge between Cathedral and Port Royal Avenue where the bus stop is a few years ago? I might understand that because it is in an area where there is already a shopping center. The residential area of Ridge and Roxborough Avenues, however...
Of course any resident of Roxborough would be for something that brings economic development to the neighborhood, but it should be something that improves the quality of life and does not bring down property values. That would be true progress. A bookstore, a cafe, a boutique of some sort...
Philajersey
2:49 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Everything that has been proposed on that site(Ridge and Cathedral) since the early 90s has been turned down becuase of the pull that Cathedral Village has. They will NOT allow a fast food place to be built on that site, much less, anything else. I truly believe that will forever be a vacant lot.
Jessica
2:59 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Facebook page started in opposition of Wendy's in Roxborough. https://www.facebook.com/RoxboroughResidentsAgainstWendys
Anne
3:33 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
What is wrong with this country? Have we no pride, tearing down a historical buildding. Only in America would/does this happen. What happened to pride of Country? This makes me sick. Someone pulled a fast one or some politicians were paid off big time.
A former Roxborough/Manayunk resident.
Roxborough Citizen
3:37 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Thank you Jessica! Keep it coming! http://www.change.org/petitions/wendy-s-fast-food-restaurant-stop-the-development-of-wendy-s-in-our-neighborhood?utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
Roxborough Citizen
3:51 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
290 facebook recommendations!
Michael
4:15 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
To Hal Schirmer, do you know if the lot/lots were rezoned? I thought it was only zoned for "mixed" use? If so, any thoughts on how that happened given the effort to stop the demo? Thanks
Hal Schirmer
4:31 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Everything in Philly was rezoned as of August 2012.
While the prior zoning was general commerical, the most recent prior approved plan for the site was mixed use four story building.
Image in the link below
http://www.phila.gov/zoningarchive/GenerateImage.aspx?app=027&docID=61359&pageNum=3
Lots of thoughts, a bit too much to respond to right now.
Michael
5:19 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Appreciate the response Hal.
That four story building, although much higher than they originally stated it would be, had nice aesthetics.
Roxborough Citizen
4:36 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
On Philly's zoning site the lot is listed as: CMX-2, Neighborhood Commercial Mixed-Use-2. Does anyone know what this means in more detail?
Giovannone Construction went for a "vacant lot" with their demolition permit. I'm not familiar with the process, but it seems to me that someone had an idea in mind for post-vacant lot because why just give a permit for demolition. Here is the contact info for them from the zoning website.
GIOVANNONE CONSTRUCTION
5003 UMBRIA ST STE 200
PHILADELPHIA, PA 19128
Phone: 215-487-1340
Fax: 215-487-6437
Roxborough Citizen
4:38 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Some history http://www.manayunkcouncil.org/
Jessica
7:31 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Please join the petition. Every time someone joins, councilman Curtis Jones Jr. and Wendy's Corp. is automatically notified by email.
http://www.change.org/petitions/wendy-s-fast-food-restaurant-stop-the-development-of-wendy-s-in-our-neighborhood
Betty Ann
9:17 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
We really do need a Walmart! That would be a good spot! N people around here really need jobs! I think Roxborough really does have enough fast food places around here! N of course this was in the works,.no way did they not no about a Wendy in December or January n oh all of a sudden comes February n oh let's make it a Wendy!!! Wrong! They knew this all along!!
Roxburger
9:19 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
The owners don't have licenses for their vacant lots. I've reported those violations to L&I for anyone who wants to vote them up:
http://www.publicstuff.com/pa/philadelphia-pa/other/one-of-5-vacant-lots-without-vacant-lot-licen-95261
http://www.publicstuff.com/pa/philadelphia-pa/other/one-of-5-vacant-lots-without-vacant-lot-licen-95263
http://www.publicstuff.com/pa/philadelphia-pa/other/one-of-5-vacant-lots-without-vacant-lot-licen-95264
http://www.publicstuff.com/pa/philadelphia-pa/other/one-of-5-vacant-lots-without-vacant-lot-licen-95265
http://www.publicstuff.com/pa/philadelphia-pa/other/one-of-5-vacant-lots-without-vacant-lot-licen-95267
Anonymous
10:32 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I must live in one of the most whiny neighborhoods in the country, roxborough was a big drug area not too long ago, but now Wendy's is a mortal sin, it's development not a conspiracy, this isn't the x files. If you don't like it then move
Michael
12:52 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Was a big drug area? Mortal sin? Yawn. Troll else where.
Caitlin
3:26 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Well then surely you can appreciate the leaps and bounds we've made if we're now complaining about a Wendy's and no longer a drug problem? I would only hope that our residents continue to strive for the betterment of our community. There's a difference between whining and standing up for something you believe in.
Anonymous
12:39 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
I am very concerned about how this will affect pedestrians. That intersection is already dangerous enough without drive-through traffic. There is a rec center diagonally opposite from this parcel of land, which means children on foot, not to mention all the people who are walking to businesses in that area or waiting at the multiple bus stops at that intersection. This kind of business is not in keeping with the development that has happened with respect to such concerns just two blocks away at Ridge and Lyceum by a developer that actually listened to such concerns.
rich
8:02 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
I said Popeye's as a joke and i was not to far off. i cant believe the politicians are allowing all this to happen. I know we all don't agree on certain development projects but Roxborough and Manayunk Iis looking real sloppy and i cant see a Wendys helping at all. I don't want to hear that 20 years ago line . I would rather have my home be worth less money and live in a clean neighborhood. with the proper development . Beer cup and piss clean up on Saturdays is a household chore for many many neighbors . On top of that you have worry about your car being broken into, if you can even find a parking spot in your zip.... What a joke
Debbie Thomas
10:41 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Rich the politicians don't care, except when it comes time to raise our property taxes. The combination of the trying to make Ridge Avenue look like Ridge & Butler Pike, and AVI might just make me highly consider moving as an option.
bethann baeringer
8:17 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
They actually do have clean ups around here, i agree wendys would be a stupid idea, i say just build more houses or condos, that way we have nothing more to complain about.. Building hses is nothing new, we are used to that..
wendy
8:44 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Change is good as long as it is positive change. This is not positive change. This type of "growth", and not just Wendy's, all the nail salons, check cashing places, etc., coupled with the influx of displaced high school students will impact the neighborhood in a very negative way. My husband and I are local business owners, we choose to have our business in Roxborough because it is a terrific area. It is heartbreaking to see a great neighborhood overtaken in such a negative way by outside interests, while the residents have zero say in what happens to a place where their families have lived for generations.
Debbie Thomas
2:43 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Ignore RoxGuy. He's a troll trying to start trouble.
john m
3:53 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Wendy, you are 100% correct!!! Agreed. :)
RoxGuy
4:26 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Not a troll. Just offended by wendys thinly veiled racism.
RoxGuy
9:13 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Wendy, both Rox High and AmyNW are already filled with "displaced" students. A few more "displaced" students from Gtown doesn't change anything. Maybe you haven't noticed but Philly has pretty big "displaced" population. If you think that "displaced" people will drag down your business then move it to someplace with less "displaced" people. They were here before you
wendy
11:03 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Wrong. My husband is third generation in Rox/Manayunk.
wendy
11:21 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
And it sounds as though you think this is a relatively new business. Wrong again. We are not young, my husband has been in this business for 43 years. If you were really a "RoxGuy" you would have a healthy concern for the changing face of one of the only decent, affordable neighborhoods in the city.
RoxGuy
11:39 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
wendy. When you say "displaced" we all know what you really mean. I bet you cheered when they bombed MOVE too
wendy
12:44 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Wow. Seriously? What is wrong with you?
RoxGuy
4:29 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
whats wrong with you? what do you have against the students of Gtown? How are school kids mucking up your neighborhood?
Ryan Gibbons
10:00 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Well, this is a bunch of horse-sh*t. I got really excited two months ago when The Foodery went in on Ridge. A place like that could really help change the area... but a freaking Wendy's? Is there really that much of a demand for a crappy fast food place like that? Put in a little gastropub with good food and beer.
Tore down a beautiful building to put in another fast food, fattening American's spot. Good job Roxborough.
Jessica
4:42 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Agree Ryan...I so agree.
Neil
12:25 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
I wish they could put in a gastropub but a liquor license is really expensive and I think too much of a risk for a restaurant like that to invest in. I'm not a big fan of them but I think our best bet would be to get a chain like Applebee's or Friday's to open up there. It would be really nice if a place with Sunday ticket would open there like a Buffalo Wild Wings.
Hal Schirmer
12:53 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Here's a crazy suggestion -
The permits for the 4 story neo-urbanist residential-commercial building on Ridge that was previously approved are sitting in the L&I file. Use them.
Get a high end gastro pub as the anchor.
Use the Coyle's liquor license, or the liquor license from the shuttered Gril's at Terrace.
Remaining floors could be residential or medical offices.
Build THAT.
Tina H
3:14 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
I agree with Hal. I would patronize a gastro pub or other non-chain restaurant. The world is bland enough without Ridge Avenue looking like every highway in New Jersey.
roxkb
12:42 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
i am so disgusted by this. we bought a house off ridge and rox last year - if i had known that in a year i would be living around the corner from a 24 hour fast food restaurant, i would have had second thoughts about buying our house. and shame on you, Giovannone Construction. shame on you for tearing down a piece of history and for lying to an entire community.
poorrichard
1:41 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
I am not against the idea of a Wendy's in Roxborough, however this location is not the ideal site. It cheapens the neighborhood and helps to pollute the immediate area. One commenter was correct regarding the potential of trouble due to the proximity to the Rec center. I further predict a shooting within six months of opening in the new Roxborough.
Debbie Thomas
2:46 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Also, you're going to have kids from Roxborough and Saul H.S. going there. I've seen fights break out quite a few times at the Wissihickon Transfer Center between the those two schools. It might be too far to walk but kids now have those free Transpasses. No, a Wendy's definitely will not be a good addition to Ridge.
ll
2:53 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
eveywhere in Ridge has high fat options.... Having a Wendys will be good for young famalies who dont drive. Who instead have to take 1 or 2 buses depending on where the are going,, Its a decent location, with enough buffer from the noce creatd, into the hood.. rox-myk needed this
Philajersey
3:03 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
I'm on the same plane as poorrichard. As a Rox resident in the past, I always wanted more variety in fast food sources in Roxborough. You can only have so much Deli's, Alex's, etc.etc before you need a change. McDonalds was the ONLY option (other than the terrible Burger King that lasted about 8 years in Ivy RidgeSC) (and the RoyRogers that went out of business, then Boston Market(yuck!) now Dunkin Donuts at Ivy Ridge SC) BUT, Ridge and Roxborugh has to be the WORST corner/area for a fast food place. TOTALLY out of place for a Wendy's, the traffic at that intersection will be a nightmare, and the ruffians will be a plenty. BAD news for that area.
Ines Stelzer
5:30 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
And here comes Kevin to tell us how decrepit and so not with it when it comes to change. Kevin seems to think that's it all for the yuppie's now, and us old farts should just shut up and accept change. Kevin darling, you may like another Starbucks (suckiest coffee) or another Vegan restaurant, but those of us who have lived here for our lifetime don't like those chances, because lets face it Kevin, in a few years, you'll move on to the next "hip" place to be and we'll be stuck with a bunch of shit restaurants no one wants. Why don't you go over to Gladwyn, or Art Museum, or how about East Falls, go tell them how they need to keep up with the Jones, tell then to tear down those delapidated building and build something for them.....go ahead, you'll be lucky to come home with teeth. A little word of advise, if your going to go around telling all of us we need to catch up with the times, chances are one of the neighborhood boys isn't going to appreciate a outsider telling us what we should do with our neighborhood. Do us all a favor, move out now so we won't have to listen to your stupid opinion of Roxborugh/Manayunk
wendy
5:22 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Why does there have to be another place to eat? Our society is so obsessed with eating, chefs and cooks are like rock stars, an entire cable network devoted to eating while obesity, diabetes, and heart disease are on the rise. The old Golden lot is going to be a Planet Fitness, with all the kids who play sports in the area why not a nice sporting goods store?
Debbie Thomas
6:36 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
You're right Wendy. I have pretty strong willpower but even I get hungry watching these shows: Diners, Drive Ins and Drives, Man vs Food, etc. These shows make it look acceptable because the hosts are always shoving food in the mouths. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with showing good places to eat. I can also understand why so many Americans are fat. Those portions are HUGE!
Jami Gudknecht
11:06 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
This is just horrible!! A friend of mine lived in one of the places that was torn down by Giovannone. She paid her rent every month and on time. She's horribly sick, had both of her kids living with her and two small grandchildren living there too. They forcefully evicted her. They couldn't even allow her to get her Xmas decorations (about 30 yrs worth) out of the basement. When she went in to move her stuff out, she found her cat with it's neck broken. These "people" knew EXACTLY what they were doing the entire time. That's all we need. A Wendy's. A new hang out for the bussed in Roxborough HS GARBAGE to hang out at. Oh amd lets not forget all the gtown HS kids that'll now be attending Rox HS. As a lifelong resident, I'm sick to my stomach over what the neighborhood is becoming. They are over developing EVERYWHERE. Putting ugly, thrown together houses anywhere they can shove them in at. It's disgusting and something needs to be done about it.
Debbie Thomas
11:30 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
I agree with you Jami. I've only been in Roxborough a little over 10 years. During that time so much has changed, especially with those ugly new homes going up everywhere. Ridge Avenue is also changing. I was, and still am, angry about the demolition of the Bunting House. When I heard a Wendy's was proposed I almost threw up. I still cannot drive by Ridge and Roxborough and see all of the vacant land where a beautiful, Victorian home once stood. I hope Giavannone, or Richard Head Construction, as I lovingly call them, burns in hell for what they did.
Ines Stelzer
5:38 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
You had me on your side until you started your racist rant. A new hang out for the bussed in? You make it sound like we're busing in criminals. Your grouping all Germantown HS kids as GARBAGE. I hope you do get sick to your stomach everyday. It isn't the kids from G'town that destroying this town, it's the sell out's who for the right price would sell their mothers, don't you dare blame them on the germantown kids - besides - they have a wendy's right on chelten ave, and they didn't destory a historic home to do it.....so who's the dumbass? It's the whore who sell their property and don't give a rat's ass what it does to the neighborhood - why should they? They're moving out, they don't have to deal with it..,,something maybe you should consider, one thing I can't stand is a racist.
Jami Gudknecht
12:28 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Burning in hell would be too good for them! Who kills someone's cat?! All she needed was another month that she would have gladly paid for. I'm from the area going back 3+ generations. I remember back when I thought it was the best place to live on earth! Oh to be young and/or naive again. :(
Debbie Thomas
9:12 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Jami isn't being racist. She's merely speaking the truth. If the Roxborough students are so well behaved then why is there a need for police cars to patrol up and down Ridge Avenue when school is dismissed? Also I have witnessed several confrontations between Roxborough H.S. and the WB Saul students at the Wissahickon Transfer center. Some of the Germantown students will be transferred to Roxborough. There's already been 2 articles in the Philadelphia Inquirer stating that there will be problems with the students in the schools like Germantown that will be closing. There's some kind of an idiotic "turf" thing going on.
Debbie Thomas
9:24 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/item/50288
I know this mostly relates to the Germantown students that will be transferring to King H.S. However, you can bet that the students who transfer over to Roxborough will be causing problems too.